In this first installment of Stereotypology, Cristen unpacks the origin and Hollywood promotion of the "spicy" Latina stereotype.
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I’m a Cuban Girl...
1.Im actually really shy
2.I hate dancing in public, or anywhere even, it gets me so nervous
3.I hate tight clothes that show off my curves(it makes me so uncomfortable), I wear purposely baggy shirts with jeans
4.Yes I do have a short temper, but I don’t yell or hit anyone, I just respond sarcastically
5.Is it weird that I find kissing people(even my family) weird? I prefer hugs instead :D
We could be awkward teenagers too :D
As you could tell by my profile picture I like memes XD
Anyway thanks for the video!
*Before the american spicy latina stereotype we had the stereotypical andalusian women in XVIII and XIX century Europe... "Bizet's Carmen", was the precursor of "Carmen Miranda".* The "passionate/loud/catholic/tempestuous" stereotype is exactly the same that northern-europeans create to imagine the "spaniards" as many northern spaniards in turn, even nowadays, imagine the "stereotypical andalusian women". Even more, some of the first "stereotypical spicy latinas" in US media, weren't only mexicans or cubans, but latin-europeans from Portugal and Spain, for example Carmen Miranda in the 40s and 50s was a portuguese born (from two northern portuguese parents) that later move to Brazil or some time later the "peculiar" Charo (from Murcia, Spain). Some people are trying to separe the "european" iberians from the latin-americans countries and some northern iberian teenagers seems very conforted with this ("OMG I'm from Asturias/Madrid/Catalonia I'm not latino, I'm whiiiittte! Pure celtiberian,we are brothers in ice with finns" and similar examples) but the at least some peoples from Europe are *impossible* to separe from their americans counterparts... Andalusia and Canarias (and probably Portugal in Brazil case), specially, have a lot of common culture with latin americans both historically and nowadays. Non-latinos north americans think usually in Antonio Banderas, the "Macarena" -shit- dance/song, the "risitas" youtube-meme guy or even the guitar and the flamenco sounds as "latino-mexican-thing" and that's nor simply ignorance or simplification... but a true cultural ties, a silent brotherhood.
Most of the immigrants in colonial era in Spanish America were andalusians, "only" about 40% of legals... but more than 50% of "illegals" and "fake seamen>immigrants" (the wetbacks of the era, literally...), and in regard to this video, this dominance is even more clear in the WOMEN, *the andalusian women were more than a 60%_ of the european women immigrated to Spanish Americas* (all these andalusian percentages were superior to "english" ones in Thirteen colonies for example), on the other hand most of the commerce was focalized on andalusian ports, so... an enormous influence exist, indeed: We have the same lingüístic features than hispanic-american peoples (almost ALL born in Andalusia and present in some andalusian regions or villages, from the seseo to the r>l of Puerto Rico, the l>r of other caribbean dialects, the ustedes -not vosotros-, the j>h and the "hard" j too, most of features of spanish american dialects, still are present in Andalusia even if "challenged" by northern spanish influence) and on the other hand some american influences in this part of Europe too, from the use of the "american" word or expression over spanish version (example: PAPA over patata) to the coincidence in our folk music of names, influxes or instruments (tango or milonga flamenco styles, caja peruana>cajón flamenco, etc...) or same traditional architecture (the "colonial" styles are basically which I see Andalusia from my birth, including the family house), the horsemen traditions (anglo-USA included!! Many western cowboy costumes and traditions, horse origins, etc, are derived from mexican ones and mexican charros "iberian origin" was... basically andalusian, as huasos or gauchos in Chile and Argentina/Uruguay/Southern Brazil...).
The "race" or the lineage origin is irrelevant. Culture is everything. Dominicans, Mexicans, Colombians or Argentine are all my brothers even if each one of them it's for a very different "set of reasons"
Part of this stereotypology of Latin women can be blamed on Latin American culture itself. Women are sexualized and objectified in Latino music, culture, TV, etc. Just watch Spanish Language TV for 30 minutes and you'll see it. It's not just coming from American culture; t's WAY worse in Latin America.
Even though I would sometimes laugh at Gloria Delgado-Pritchet's depiction, I can also tell you still feels like jokes written by a stranger looking-in, instead of jokes written by someone's experience. Probably by due to a phenomenon similar to the one that created Taco Bell.
Why is it dangerous: how often a latina speaking up about actions/words/phrases/situations that offend them, negatively affect them, causes loss income, not getting a promotion... is simply interpreted as "she is just spicy" and then push aside? for me? EVERYDAY!!!
Newsflash: latina women have taught themselves to speak up for a myriad of reasons, and even more important, we speak up because we DO NOT put up with nonsense! we are not decoration, nor "stiff-cartoons of proper ladies"
whites are just racis And want to steal everything frome everyone were were in the southwesr before them and the just stole our land so we have every right to be her and we should be represented better
As a latina/hispanic, I hate the most is curvy(wide hips and large breast),being tan as view woman in one simple culture. Genetics can not define a race, well it the pressure of beauty trends hold on the stereotype and mock over and over...
I can kinda relate to that. I've been mistaken as a non-Hispanic white person from Europe plenty of times. Although I had most of my ancestry from Europe and my family seems to think I have more of the European genes than them, I also have ancestry from the Mayans. It gives me such a huge explanation that Latinxs are quite diverse and not easy to assume by basic appearance.
I had someone told if I speak or am I Arabic (Middle East Countries) or Chaldean, because of my nose and color of my skin. It get uncomfortable and I have to answer "no" I'm Latina (Mexican) or Everyone is diverse, can't assume if someone by basic appearance.
I find this issue particularly interesting for me, because my father is Galician (from Galicia, in the Northwestern corner of Spain) and my mom is from the Midwest, what you would traditionally perceive as white. My dad is an immigrant, and so he faces all sorts of xenophobia and also "hispanophobia" I guess you would say because he comes from a Spanish-speaking place. Me on the other hand, most people probably just think I'm white with bold eyebrows, dark hair, brown eyes, fuller lips than your average white chick, and olive skin. I certainly am not blonde and blue eyed with pale skin, but I'm also not Latin American or Mesoamerican. I get to enjoy the privileges of being white-passing (and I would say I'm white, just a hispanic white person), but people are sometimes uncomfortable with the fact that I'm a native Spanish speaker and grew up in a country outside of the U.S. Throw in the celtic heritage of Galicia and the separate language of Galicia and ... I literally have never met anyone other than my two younger sisters that share an experience similar to mine, and even they don't really know since they were younger when we left Spain and therefore aren't as connected to their Spanish and Galician heritage. I don't know, maybe my comment is totally irrelevant, but if there are any other people with similar experiences or advice/inferences, that would be really helpful to know, because I really don't have anyone to talk to that would fully understand my perspective I guess. Props if you actually read all of this.
I agree Italian and Spanish are very similar. In America, Hispanics are not seen as European. They have their own category. Italians on the other hand are seen as Caucasian. In early immigration to America, Italians were persecuted because of their culture. Over time, Italians are now seen as similar to Northern Europeans.
We are not Latino, hispanic, mestizo, or raza. We are indigenous people who have survived the greatest genocide in the history of the world. Being "mixed" is just a scar of colonialism and does not define us as a people.
On the other hand the "greatest genocide in history" idea is an incredible irrational LIE, at least in Hispanic America, where *at the edge of Indepedence still there was an ABSOLUTE MAJORITY OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE* So... 318 years (at least) of spanish control and the suposedly "exterminated" peoples still are the vast majority... What a strange "genocide". Genocide, implies an intentionally extermination of an ethnic (primarly, but religious or ideological too) group, so how do you explain the presence of that enormous amount of indigenous peoples in the Hispanic-America at the begining of Independence Wars? And where is the intentionality of "destroy" all the peoples (in plural)? We could talk about some ethnic cleansing in anglo-america and some massacres and criminal behaviour in every colonial part of America, but genocide is what happened to jews, armenians, rwandans: an intentional desire to erase entire groups and consequently the practical *intentional killing* of most of them (or a significant part).
An example: In the pre-roman South Europe, North Africa or East mediterranean there are several ethnic groups of "indigenous people" with very different languages and traditions. Then, in the context of the imperialistic conflict between Roman Republic and Carthage, Rome conquered and defeat every people that encounter, sometimes with a pacific submission but mostly with swords, blood, violence and fear, as usual in that monster that are wars... Well, Rome conquest 80% of the Iberian peninsula in 50 years and lasted another 150 years to conquest the last remains in Asturias and Cantabria before what Rome conquered Gaul (modern France and Belgium), a bit of Germania (in Holland and Germany), most of Balcans, Switzerland and Austria, modern north African coast from Morocco to Egypt, Syria, Judea and Palestina, Lebanon, modern Turkey... A bit later, about the year 100 a.c., 300 years after the "big" conquests begun , didn't exist traces of most of the peoples and few of the native languages survives, finally in 300 a.c., 500 years after first conquests in Iberia, no languages, no culture, no peoples at all, only romans*, with two main languages, latin and greek, practically no more (some few, excepctions, but for example not indigenous languages or ethnicities in modern Spain, Portugal, France...). Could we think in this roman conquests and the erase of several native languages an hundreds of indigenous peoples from history as an extremely "effective" and terrible genocide? The times are very similar to America conquest and colonization... But in Americas the indigenous peoples still were majority 300 years after conquests begun, and 500 years after, even far more "endangered" exist about 60 million natives and several hundreds of native tongues in use... The biggest genocide in History? Really?
P.S. No, roman conquests weren't a sucession of genocides, althought being brutal and imperialistic, because roman don't exterminated the peoples, simply defeated and absorbed them and not "fighting" actively against native languages the latin and greek became the "prestigious" languages wich "natives" adopt usually for social status purposes... The same 1.000 times in history. The same in America, even if the result is less "culturicidal" than Rome Empire was...
P.S. 2: Probably, you have spaniard ancestors, probably "common people", poor, farmers, servants or merchants, not simply "encomenderos abusadores", nor "rapist", nor "sadisic soldiers", but a poor farmer in Costa Rica, married with a native woman, and another working spaniard married with a mestiza in a native dominant village, and a third spanish... woman, married with another of your mestizo, mulato or indian ancestors... And in consequence, you have many roman, and pre-roman Iberia natives ancestors too... Equally, your american native (and/or african) ancestors weren't simply "absolute victims" but individuals with is own ideas and preferences, good moments and struggles, ambitions and victories... The victimism and the oversimplifications are not just, rational or valuable. They are not "social justice", nor "freedom", nor "just historical memory", but an irrational obstacle to achieve them.
You are extremely wrong... First for that idea of "mixed is just a scar of colonialism" that is horrible and only possible in the United States of the "one drop rule" *in contrast with the legal and usual MARRYING* and free unions in groups of different cultures or mostly "social origin" in Hispanic America, or the "no indians in our society and 95% of blacks enslaved" in Thirteen Colonies and first decades of USA, in enormous contrast with the continuous cohabitation, even with obviously discriminations, of indigenous peoples in the "spanish-american" society, in the cities, in the normal jobs (not encomienda based), in the little commerce even... and even more in contrast with the ¡majority of the blacks and the near all mulatos being free people!, not slaves, from one or two generations after the terrible arrive of the first enslaved people to the final steps of the spanish period. The social ethnic-cultural-origins distintion of "classes" or discrimination against some of these groups is not a specific reality and exception of colonial America but the NORM in most of the world from the begining of the complex societies. The inter-mixing between this social classes in Hispanic America is not a scar but a marvelous example of tolerance and acceptance of the other even in a "injust, unequal in rights and duties society" (as the german or chinese societies at the time indeed). The massive mixing in hispanic-america (the largest in scale in Human History) is one of the better things that we could learn from pre-1800 world history, one of the best examples of humanity and normality in the relation with "the other" before the late ilustrates, the human rights, the abolitionism, etc, at the final XVIII century and beginings of the next century.
sorry but I disagree. Latinamerican women are generally, though not always, spicy AND don't usually lose their comportment as shown in various clips of movies. Of course, of course, there are always exceptions .. How do I come to this conclusion? Well .... I live in NYC and the rest you can guess/figure out. --- Cheers/saludos a todas.
My God just chill. It's a fun little stereotype. Not many people actually believe all Latinas are exactly the same. However the stereotype makes an entertaining character in movies and tv shows. Also is a good way to give minorities acting jobs.
+Jeciti Vaz Well see?? We are equal opportunity offenders. We don't come up with stereotypes to offend minorities. We just like to come up with stereotypes period Even if they are about our own race.
Hey you can do whatever you are want, this is a free country after all. I'm only saying if you want people to take you seriously you shouldn't be so sensitive. Feel free to joke about me and my race all you want I don't see what the big deal is. Why get so offended?? It makes no sense to me...
FYI I obviously don’t know how any of you guys interact with your friends, girlfriend, etc., but everyone can be racist. Most of it comes from people that (intentionally or not) just stay with a general and basic definition of what a race (ethnicity, culture, group, etc.) is, without being aware or willing to learn any different. Sometimes it can be little things like trying to make a joke to fit in or something bigger like valuing someone’s opinion more just because they are a different race. The thing is that everything builds up, the little things start to build up, patience runs thin and it can get frustrating. And it always takes effort to see things from the perspective of others, to realize if you’re actually offending someone, especially when most people try to play it cool, pretend they’re not offended or assume that the other person is doing it on purpose and they don’t want to give them the satisfaction of reacting. So when someone actually gets offended and it feels more like the exception instead of the rule, you have to look again, be more open-minded and see why that happened.
Half of those things are still things that white people assigned to themselves and no body really calls someone racist unless they do of say something that seems racist. Even so, it's not your place to tell me when or when I shouldn't be offended when someone says something off to me even as a joke I don't overreact, simply voice my feelings like " hey man, don't appreciate you joking about that" . I personally don't stereotype white people, is so much too ask the same respect?
+Jeciti Vaz Oh yeah, inbreeds, racists, hillbillies crackas etc. Yeah those aren't negative stereotypes....right......sure if someone is saying something to intentionally offend you I agree. They are pieces of shits. However if someone is just goofing around with no intent to hurt. Just settle down. There is no reason to get all worked up. When you do, it just makes you look way too sensitive and you lose all credibility.
+bobby smith see that's the thing, you're undermining other people's issues by comparing it to white stereotypes. In historical context there's not too many stereotypical things that were said about white people, therefore, it just doesn't have the same negative backing. If someone tells you they don't like to be called x or y, be a courteous human being and don't say it instead of complaining about us being offended. Simple.
As a Latina, it is so crazy to acknowledge that many people still think this way of latinas. I don't consider myself spicy or exotic. I am just a person with a cultural background like anybody else from any part of the world. I define who I am, these erroneous views, don't.
My worst experience with it was in Percy Jackson Lighting Theif.
Latino when she should be greek
Shown as spicy when most myths depict her as feminine, weak, delicate, and nature loving
Well, I'm Dominican... I've talked to many men who have asked me if it's true that Latinas are all curvy and wild in bed. An image the women of my country are helping to perpetuate with their 'gringo-worshipping' behavior. Our island is well-known for its prostitutes, and I think this is not helping our cause. Most Dominican women aspire to have enough money to enhance their body and with it, enhance their status and worth. "chapiar (golddigging) is what most of our young women aspire to.
I don't like stereotypes, it hurts us all, but there's always some truth behind it.
Agreed. I'm dominican and I've realized that when women do all those cosmetic procedures to look a certain way or to fit in the "nowadays concept of beauty" imposed by the media, they're also doing it to please men and to be considered beautiful or "goals" from other women perspectives. I find it truly sad, cause a few years ago, let's say in the beginning of the 2000's, the "ideal body" was skinny, then it changed to skinny/flat ass/huge boobs and now is the "curvaceous latina" stereotype that most women are trying to achieve. I'm curious to see what the next "ideal body" will be.
Entertainment is made to be entertaining. Not accurate. White men don't actually fly through the air with superpowers, but they wish they could and they're the ones making the movies, therefore, Latinas are hot and spicy, and Latinos are criminals and janitors.
Stereo typology should be taught in high schools and university, I believed this all my life, its the new racism, stereotypes do a greater amount of implicit damage as opposed to explicit racist remarks.
You stereotyped Latin American food by calling it spicy. Though they speak the same language, that doesn't mean all their food is spicy. I ate Puerto Rican food for half my life and never had a piece of spicy food. I think it's the same for Dominican Republic and Cuba. I just found it ironic that you were trying to clear up stereotypes but stereotyped their food.
I really appreciate this video, I'm so sick of people's stereotypes, I am Dominican, I yes I can cook (had to learn after moving by myself) I can't dance, I don't wear skin tight clothes, I'm a big geek, and love politics , I'm not a sexualized object, I am a person, and a quite intelligent person I like to think, so please stop making seem as a "little sex kitten"
the fact that she spelled ColOmbia with an U makes me cringe so hard man. I'm from Medellin and this constant confusion gets frustrating haha . I understand she didn't intend to do it but its just eeerrrrgggg. imagine someone spelling the USA with idk uza , you'd get pretty irritated eh?
The weirdest thing is never leaving your Latin country and, as a pale skinned upper class girl, always being seen as privileged and then realizing the whole world think you're inherently sexually available, angry and curvy (especially if you're Brazilian). I'm a light skinned girl and for that I've always had privlege. It's weird when you realize the rest of the world thinks of you as less of a person because you're Latina. It's just... Super weird.
Emmm... I'm Latina and:
- I can't cook for the life of me
- I don't look like a miss universe
- I'm not Roman catholic (I'm christian orthodox)
- I don't know how to salsa dance
- I hate spicy food
- I'm not loud, actually I'm soft spoken
- i don't have a "latin temper" ... I'm quite passive/calm
- I'm not a maid, im a social worker
- I don't have kids (yep! none) lol
As a Hispanic who grew up in Miami (where the huge majority of people I grew up with are Hispanics) I couldn't love this video more. Even the people there tried to live up to the "spicy Latina" stereotype with everyone trying to sexualize me. I'm not gonna bop my butt or move my hips if I don't want to, and I don't have to wear tight fitting clothes all the time. I know some people who do like that stuff, but people need to stop assuming that some people (like me) would prefer to go nowhere near it. Doesn't mean I'm not proud of my heritage!
Hi! I was wondering if you could talk about the Asian cultures in America and the stereotyping in America? I'm half Japanese, and there has been throughout my entire life, deemed as a math genius, proper and shy. If you could talk about the specifically Japanese culture, and how everyone seems to forget that our people went through the internment camps in the USA, and no one seems to really talk about it. It was only until I was in college that I ever even learned about them, outside of my grandparents. Please give people some perspective on this. Please! ^_^
This is when stereotyping gets frustrating for me though. because this is a stereotype that proves true a lot. It's not right to stereotype Latinas, that's not what I'm saying. But I think it's genuinely sort of female gender roles in these various, but related, cultures, that encourages a certain amount of this personality type to propagate. Down with gender rolls and all, but I think it's worth further looking into the pressures on the inside f the culture that drive this stereotype as well.
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